EP 44 – Why Relationships Will Always Beat AI in Recruitment w/ Julian Lisaunskas
In this episode of The 1% Better Recruitment Podcast, I’m joined by Julian Lisaunskas, Founder of 5Q Consultancy and a passionate voice in the world of Rec2Rec. With 18+ years in the game, Julian shares raw, honest insights about why relationships will always matter more than automation, how to future-proof your recruitment career, and why being a “geek” about the process is your superpower. 🤖❤️ We cover: ✅ Why most recruiters get relationships wrong ✅ How to stand out in a noisy market ✅ Real-world examples of building loyalty (donuts included 🍩) ✅ The truth about AI, sourcing tools & how to modernise without losing your edge ✅ Why every great recruiter is a bit of a 5-year-old (in the best way) Whether you’re a rookie recruiter or running a £10M agency, this episode will challenge your thinking. ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro & Julian’s backstory 04:20 – Why Rec2Rec is harder than people think 08:00 – The power of old-school relationships 13:55 – How a donut delivery won £100K in business 17:30 – What makes a killer job brief 22:15 – Being “the geek” in recruitment 30:42 – Prepping candidates like a pro 37:00 – ChatGPT vs. human intuition 44:40 – Why most interview prep is broken 50:25 – How to challenge your boss with confidence 57:40 – Why businesses MUST invest in training 1:03:00 – The split model, loyalty & what legacy really means 1:06:12 – Final tip: Always ask one more question 🔗 Connect with Julian Lisaunskas LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianlisauskas/ 5Q Consultancy: https://www.linkedin.com/company/5q-consultancy/posts/?feedView=all 🔗 Connect with Charles Kyriakou LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charleskyriakou1/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@charles.kyriakou?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1-better-recruitment-podcast/id1775201502 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/46LjJfw0Y4IVJwnigCdxJX LinkedIn Newsletter:https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7244346543967731712/?displayConfirmation=true 👇 Enjoyed this? Don’t forget to like, comment & subscribe!
